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Chris Roberts's avatar

i always believed clinton in 08 was promised nomination next time for conceding and endorsing Obama.this doomed the country. the blant rigging of primarys in 16 for clinton tore apart the party.i am 51 now lifelong dem i supported obama in 08 and seeing what dems was doing to bernie who i ssupported i said fuck it and voted trump then.i quickly wised up and didn't vote for that vile piece of shit in 20 or 24.i held noise for biden after obama stacked primarys against bernie gain and trump's unhingedness made me hold noise for Harris.the election base don exit polling and evidence was over minute harris said she would do nothing different from Biden.dem establishment does great waging war on the left but terrable seeing reality and doing what is necssary to beat gop.Biden mental problems was no secret they should never had allowed it to go that far.instead they should have challenged him and forced him out.Clyburn has fucked america over in 16,20,and now 24 he needs to go away and have no more influence.same with brazile

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Dilly Putty's avatar

Obama has good political instincts - he has his faults but I wouldn't put him with the rest.

It seems like the Democratic Party has to founder before it can move forward. I just hope they are not waiting on Trump to implode and think they can continue with business as usual. The only way they are going to establish a lasting popular foundation is by bringing the oligarchs to heal (yes, I used the word, CIA Slotkin). The centerist dems will never do that.

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